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My name is Dr. SWILUA. (Pronounced "Swill-oo-ah") That's short for "She Who Is Like Unto Aphrodite." It's my official title, thanks.

Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Writing is Revising

So, I'm not going to name names or anything, but I bet a lot of y'all think of writing this way:

You open up a blank word document.
You stare at it.
You go get some Cheetos.
You stare at it some more.
Around 2AM, you frantically write something down.
You turn it in the next day.

This is not how real writers write.

Yes, we use word documents. Yes, we stare at them. Yes we work at 2AM and we eat Cheetos. The difference is, we don't expect to get anything but crap out of ourselves this way.

And there's nothing wrong with producing crap. (See the previous post about giving yourself permission to suck.) But what is really vital is to embrace the fact that writing does not end here.

Will I know how much revising you're doing? Maybe. Maybe not. Will I know if you turn in a paper that you wrote at 2AM the night before? I might know you've turned in a crappy paper, but I won't know the specifics of how it got that way. Does it matter what I know or don't know? Not really.

What I care about is that you turn in good writing.

And good writing is almost always revised writing.

Think about that word: revise. It means to "re-see."

The first time you write a draft--even if you think it's FANTASTIC--there are things about it that you won't see right away. And so at some point, you'll have to re-see it.

How do you re-see things?

I've found that there's nothing better than utilizing an audience. You can find these in various places:

1. The writing center
2. Your peer-review group
3. Your mother
4. Your roommate
5. The class--especially when we do in-class paper discussions and BPRs.
6. Anyone else who loves you enough to read through your stuff

So, here's what the writing process looks like:

1. You stare at the computer for awhile until you write down a lot of crap.
2. You consider yourself your first audience, and you read it out loud. (Reading out loud totally helps, I promise.) You try to re-see the things that should be changed and you change them.
[days may pass]
3. You find another audience. Let's say your peer review group. They read your paper and talk about things you could do to make it better. You go home, try to see it from their point of view, then decide what to change and/or keep. Then you write another draft.
[more days may pass]
4. You find another audience. Maybe the writing center. You listen to what they say. You write another draft.
[even more days may pass]
5. Why not use the class as an audience? (We have in-class paper presentation days specifically for this!) We all tell you what we think you should change. You think about it. You write another draft.
[maybe even weeks will pass]
6. If enough time has passed since you last saw your paper (this usually works best if you haven't looked at if for a week or two), you can look at it with fresh eyes again. Re-see it. Then you can write another draft.

This is how "real" writers write, people. We do not have magic tongues that spew forth golden verbiage on command. Maybe your crazy roommate has that, but normal people don't. This is not something to worry about.

What you do worry about is scheduling in the time. Writing takes time. Revising takes even more time. Finding good readers takes chocolate chip brownies.

If you're good with that, you'll probably be OK here. No matter what kind of "writer" you think you are, the best writers are just the ones who don't stop revising. The ones who don't expect to.

57 comments:

  1. This post is entertaining and relaxing. The reference to Cheetos is funny and the down to earth tone creates an excitement for this class.

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  2. I agree with Kiersti, thanks Professor Spencer. I do appreciate the way you've written the post (and the syllabus). I'd be quite a bit more intimidated if it were written in strict, formal English.

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  3. For example, the syllabus for PL SC 201, where it says you will fail immediately if you miss more than 4 classes. Pressure!

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  4. I can honestly say that I am excited about this class. Your attitude seems so fantastic. It reminds me of the way my AP english teacher taught and her class was awesome. I hope your class exceeds my expectations!

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  5. Yeah, I could definitely see my AP English teachers saying the same thing. I've got to admit that I do a lot of screen staring before I write a paper (not completely intentionally); I also edit things over and over again in the same sitting (especially when I have time to do so, but usually even when I don't), which I know is not a good idea; but I do it almost every time I write (unless I'm writing for fun and I'm in a creativity groove). It's going to take practice and super concentration not to do that, but it makes my papers smoother (that's what I think at least).

    P.S.- Your sister seems really fun. :)
    P.S.S.- I don't generally get up from the computer until I'm done with either my first draft or the first few pages; I especially do not get up for Cheetos (I don't think that they are gluten-free, so I'm not completely sure that I can eat them at all).

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  6. BUMMER ABOUT THE CHEETOS! but i bet you're a guhjillion times healthier for it. good job. so i've heard this a bunch- most of writing is re-writing. and i believe it. just one thing- if we're writing 6 papers, should i start them all at the beginning so i have enough time to let them sit for a couple of weeks?

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  7. Um... I've never stared at the computer screen like that, but... great tip! I have never done the proofreading thing. And I love your obsession with brownies, both on here and on the syllabus! It's great!

    - Jessica Allen

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  8. That really is how I wrote most of my high school papers if you substitute the Cheetos for Mike'n'Ike's. Looking back, I guess I mostly made it through on luck. thing was, I always knew what I should have been doing, but I never did it. I also think my motivation was pure laziness, rather than fear.

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  9. I really enjoyed your attitude and your passion for English because mine is lacking at the present moment. I can't wait to meet you and get this class rolling! yayyyy! btw, Sun Chips are better than Cheetos.

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  10. I believe the only issue I have with this process is that I don't eat cheetos, I eat Spicy Sweet Chili Doritos. If you have not tried them, you should. Maybe I could bring them to you for extra credit?

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  11. I am really excited to be in your class. You seem really awesome. It was actually entertaining to read your syllabus and the blog.

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  12. Woo hoo! I've never commented on a blog before!

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  13. Revising papers exasperates me to death, but at the same time, I love comparing what a paper was at the beginning to the final product. The difference in tone and style that occurs is amazing and often unexpected. :D

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  14. I could not agree more with the fact that brownies are a religion, which is basically saying that they're a way of life if you take your religion seriously. I am extremely excited for this class, mainly because I know that my writing could and should be a lot better than it has been in past. I have been guilty of the sad Cheetos syndrome, although not necessarily with Cheetos, more likely chocolate. I think it's time to change that.

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  15. Definitely some useful information in here. I'm not very good at getting feedback from others, and this has some good ideas of how to do that

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  16. Ok, that whole staring at a blank computer screen is what I've been doing even just trying to think of something to say in a comment. So, that's what my comment gets to be about. Super interesting, I know.

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  17. I really appreciate your voice in this blog post Dr. Kerry! I am so excited to meet you. I think that this post specifically applies to me because I almost feel limited to "last minute writing" techniques. I always wait until I fell "inspired" then write a ton. HOPEFULLY, this class will be a good way for me to stop this awful habit and try and write more "traditionally" and at a normal time of day. :)

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  18. This is unrelated, but why am I showing up as "cleanupsfinal"? My email is my name and I never said my name was this... Im Jay btw.

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  19. I so agree with never EVER being finished with revising. I want to be a fiction writer, and I've done quite a bit of writing so far for my novels, and it NEVER SEEMS TO END! They will always be waiting for further revision, and who knows when I'll finally be able to publish them.

    I'm Mykell, btw, since I can't remember what my Google Account name is, so I thought I'd add my name, just in case.

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  20. I like the part where it explains how it hurts to be a mother. i think i will show my mom that. Also, i always write the cheeto way so i guess i will have to stop

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  21. By the way chlourden is Jourden DeWitt. I want my credit for reading this. So I thought i would tell you my name. I think it is understandable.

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  22. To this point in my life, I have yet to write a paper like the ones described in the blog, but I do not necessarily believe this is my fault. (No I'm not playing the blame game) but from the public education system that I came from, we had a very structured schedule and we nearly never had the time to revise, get a fresh perspective then revise again. Usually, we'd revise until we burned out, then we'd attempt to revise the paper again until we quickly burned out. The process of writing described in the blog seems to be very intriguing, and I am excited to be able to write in such a method, maybe then I will be able to be proud of something that I've written.

    Sean Kang

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  23. I feel like I don't fall into this cliche, but then again I still need to not put together a crappy unrevised paper. I actually got my papers done earlier knowing I had to get up at 4 the next morning for a paper route. :-)

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  24. Yeaaaahhhh.... I'd say this is completely valid (especially the brownies)... It's going to be a fun semester... given we actually apply this advice. :p

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  25. This is the story of my life. As long as I can still eat Cheetos, I think this new style might work for me.

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  26. Revise? this shall be my biggest struggle. Self-handicapping was my best bud through all of high school. But your tone and honesty have made the thought of throwing away my crutch a little less intimidating.

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  27. Ha I guess this is my awakening. I never revise. Which is probably why my grades on essays were never superb.

    Brandon B

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  28. So I have a question... if I bring brownies to class do I get extra credit? Or cookies? I have this amazing recipe called Death by Chocolate Chips... oh man wouldn't that just be the way to go? Imagine sitting in the old folks home contently eating chocolate when you put the last piece in you mouth, swallow and slip away. Now that I think about it that's how I'm going to do it.
    Sarah Leavitt

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  29. oh, ps. I totally LOVED you dress last class. It was beautiful, and was that your little girl? Adorable!
    pps. does brown nosing get me extra credit either?
    :D
    Sarah

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  30. I was too lazy to revise papers a whole lot in high school, and I still got really good grades. I guess that's a skill I will need to pick up for BYU. Well, for the rest of my life, really.

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  31. I wish I could spew forth golden verbiage. That would be absolutely lovely and save me a lot of time better spent baking brownies.

    I absolutely agree. I haven't really done much revising in the past when it comes to academic papers. I know that I definitely need it even though I may think that my work is as perfect as it's going to get. Others have great insight that I'm missing out on by excluding them from my journey to the perfect paper. Then again, some of the ideas given by revisers aren't the greatest... however, they still catch my occasional grammar blip :)

    -Lindsay

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  32. I'm usually too fed up with my paper to go back and revise it after I've finished writing it. Writing is a long process and requires a lot of brain power because you are constantly rewording and reorganizing your sentences in order to make them sound as clever as you can or create a flow through out your paper. Peer review is helpful but I personally don't enjoy going over my own paper after I've written it. I should proabably change that right about now.
    -Ariel P.

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  33. One of my old english teachers said that once we have what we think is the final draft, we should take a complete break from it for a whole day and then read it out loud the next day. This post reminded me of that. Oh, and I don't know that I can get behind the whole "brownie" thing. Sugar makes me distracted.

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  34. Sadly, I don't think I've ever had anything reviewed, except a couple of college essays. I guess it's time to change things up a bit a be a better writer, sounds good to me. Thank you for emphasizing that. Sometimes the best way is forcing us to do those things that we later realize that made us better, then we incorporate those habits. Time is now.

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  35. I'm kind of technologically challenged and I just figured out how to post a comment. I hope this works.

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  36. Actually, my best writing came at ungodly hours of the morning the day an assignment was due. Again, I credit the adrenaline. Every other paper I wrote was forgettable and I couldn't even stand to look at it long enough to revise.

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  37. Definitely been up that late writing before. Wasn't too bad though. I definitely do not want to procrastinate that long ever again.

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  38. I really should learn to be a reviser...

    Blog Stalk Confession: You made the RSS Feed. Congratulations.

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  39. This article was really helpful to me because I am definitely the type who waits until the night before to crank out a paper. I like to just do things fast and be done with them, but with writing that method doesn't work too well.

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  40. I appreciate the paper, not only because I too am the type to procrastinate to get a project done, but also because I often find myself overlooking the little things (like printig out the tests/pretests, working on my journal, knowing whether to go to the library of Maeser Building, etc.). I do realize that when I have the goal in hand and I have a huge time to get things done, my finer work is not with the work that is done on the last minute, but with the work that is given a consistent effort. Thanks for the excellent post!

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  41. I honestly can't think of a time when I wrote a paper previous to the last 24 hours available, but I'll change my ways - at least give it a valient effort!

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  42. I always say I like writing, but I really don't. I love having written something that I can show off to myself and my friends and anyone else who I want to impress. The writing itself is enfuriatingly torpid.

    What they need is brownie-flavored cheerios . . . or maybe just brownies in milk. Why weren't cheerios and brownie mix on my book list?

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  43. This post is SO TRUE! Especially the part about staring at a blank word document. Thankfully, there was a lot helped me out to become a better writer.

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  44. I kind of relate to that description, but I'm not sure if I've ever really started @ around 2:00, I done writing at the time a few times but I wouldn't say I start late. And now I want cheetos

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  45. Agreed. I don't have much of a problem of staring at an empty screen as much as I do completing a thought in a... wait, what am I doing? Oh yeah... a paper.

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  46. Revising has helped me soo much!! I have found lots of little mistakes that I didn't know was there. In books, I found mistakes that didn't get caught through revising. Happens even to the best of us I guess ;)

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  47. Okay, I love to revise. No really. My stuff or anyone else's. But what I do not love is the actual writing. It is painful. I definitely sit in the perfectionist camp on this one: I want every sentence to be perfect as I put it down. I know I can and will revise, but I want it to be perfect the first time. When I try the "permission to suck" method, yeah, I write things. But it's sooooo crappy that I don't want to revise it. Oh the struggle. So I'm looking for that happy medium, where I do my best on my first draft, but without stressing for perfection. And then I revise.

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  48. I am terrible at doing this. Not because I "hate" writing or something to the like, it is because I am terrible at writing a first draft. When I write a first draft, usually I try to fix every single minor detail. Which really isn't the best way to write. So usually, I don't really do revisions. I really need to work on that.

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  49. First drafts are definitely the hardest, but I always keep that in mind as I write them, and taht's what typically helps me through.

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  50. Ah I can't do Cheetos... I find I come up with a typing hand, and a Cheeto hand, and take twice as long to get any writing done. The multi-draft process sounds like the best way to really explain what you're trying to say over paper.

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  51. Well,I've never stayed up until 2 to write a paper before. No paper I've ever had to write has been exciting enough to keep me awake that long. I value sleep more than almost everything else.I have however, been able to get by on the inspiration brought on by last minute panic. I usually never like to go over something I've already done either. Hopefully I can change this, and hopefully I'm able to give myself enough time between revisings so that it won't seem quite as bad.

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  52. Sounds like a good plan to me!

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  53. Guilty. Revision is not my favorite thing in the world, but I do know that it is important. I will definitely be taking your advice!

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  54. Now I feel like I need to go write something and acquire a bag of cheetos.

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  55. Interestingly enough, I have found that this has NEVER happened to me. I turn my computer on, put it on my lap, open up word, as it's loading I think about getting some Doritos but ohp, here it's open, suddenly I've got 7 pages and I am too lazy to get the computer off of me to go get food because I can't stop writing... now I have to find a way to remove a page or two of writing without actually taking out anything important. But staring at a blank page... Well that just seems silly. Why put the page in front of yourself if you have no idea what to say?

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  56. I like the ICPRs and I always get my friends opinion on a paper before I turn it in.

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